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Post by David on Oct 25, 2021 0:20:59 GMT
I got you age wrong by a lot...something tells me
that such an assumption on my behalf was down to
a photo you shared, sometime ago showing you next
to a snowman, such an mage stuck with me re your
youthful appearance and has remained with me ever since.
Forgive me now being in my seventy sixth year...
I forget that our profile changes over time, whether
we like it or not, as a result of our on going years. lol
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Post by mike412412 on Oct 25, 2021 0:55:46 GMT
I'd guess you were in your fifties by your picture.
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Post by David on Oct 25, 2021 1:30:47 GMT
Cheers for such a kind reply Mike,,
the photo was taken in June 2015 i Edinburgh,
which would have correlated with me being sixty nine and a half.
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Post by Hercules on Oct 25, 2021 8:18:01 GMT
Hi David, thanks I'm not shackeled to an ankle bracelet yet, I will be however in the near future when court is over so I'm trying to prepare myself for what I'm gonna do when I am. My lawyer and the crown attorneys already have it all set, I just have to wait for the upcoming final court date for it to begin. I guess I can't really complain too much about being cooped up in the winter in my own house as appose to going to jail. (they'd probably eat me alive in there) I'm gonna be allowed out just by permission of the officer to get groceries, go to appointments, I'm allowed to have visitors, I'm allowed to go to church and the drop in center and whatever they approve or think is useful for my mental health. Sometimes people with jobs who committed their first non serious offence or would get 2-3 months jail get 2-3 months house arrest I've been told, they are just allowed go to and from work etc. and your wearing a tracking device so if anything happens they know if it was or wasn't you and what your up to, where you are etc. I'm 38. I've been lonely for a while, I cry about it sometimes. I need to learn to make good friends and go to the right places to meet them. I'm hoping by going to the dropin center and mental health groups I can make friends. My mom is the most important person in the world to me. I've told her that and that I love her. I worry about her a lot. I'm not sure if I believe in God but I've tried to, I want to. Hi Mike If you go to church and join a small group or bible study you will make real friends who have a good heart. Unlike some of the friends you had in the past who weren’t really there for you. If you want to believe in god that will be enough belief for them to let you into a church and trust you I met my best friend through bible study And made another friend because we were both Christians My friends would walk over broken glass for me if I asked them too They have integrity growing out of their ears The only rule for being my friend is that you must have great integrity and loyalty Such people are found in churches because the values Jesus preaches eg helping little old ladies across the street appeals to people of integrity so religion resonates with them and reinforces their values further If you are lonely and want some real friends church is the only place to make them If you have questions about religion that you want to clear up you can run them past me in this thread in case one of us has an answer for your concern Most of the Members of this message board are religious which is part of the reason we get on so well together and care for each other. |
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Post by mike412412 on Oct 26, 2021 1:59:57 GMT
I haven't been to church in so long I used to think the people would judge me harshly if they got to know me. I just wanna repent/atone, be forgiven. Speak my mind be part of humankind.
I don't know how to join a church group or where to go for bible study, how did you do it?
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Post by David on Oct 26, 2021 2:31:39 GMT
yesterday at 12:41am mike412412 said:
Hi David, thanks
I'm not shackled to an ankle bracelet yet, I will be however in the near future when court is over so I'm trying to prepare myself for what I'm gonna do when I am. My lawyer and the crown attorneys already have it all set, I just have to wait for the upcoming final court date for it to begin. I guess I can't really complain too much about being cooped up in the winter in my own house as appose to going to jail. (they'd probably eat me alive in there) I'm gonna be allowed out just by permission of the officer to get groceries, go to appointments, I'm allowed to have visitors, I'm allowed to go to church and the drop in center and whatever they approve or think is useful for my mental health. Sometimes people with jobs who committed their first non serious offence or would get 2-3 months jail get 2-3 months house arrest I've been told, they are just allowed go to and from work etc. and your wearing a tracking device so if anything happens they know if it was or wasn't you and what your up to, where you are etc.
I'm 38. I've been lonely for a while, I cry about it sometimes. I need to learn to make good friends and go to the right places to meet them. I'm hoping by going to the dropin center and mental health groups I can make friends.
My mom is the most important person in the world to me. I've told her that and that I love her. I worry about her a lot.
I'm not sure if I believe in God but I've tried to, I want to.
Cheers for the follow up Mike
I am so pleased you are not shackled by a bracelet tracking your every movement>I cannot speak for you but if that were me it would spur me on to rebel further. Having mental issues is not a crime, and confinement in any shape or form, unless implemented to curtail self or harm to others barbaric in thus day and age. There was a time in what I refer to the dark ages, when society . was of the understanding that act act differently was caused by Satan. and locked those who were deemed so, for fear, that they would be contaminated also. Thank heaven those days are over. Although in some parts of the world such taboo still exits.
On Loneliness, it is such a personal matter, I find it difficult to , simply because one size does not fit all,
to preach to others my views .Supporting a particular religious movement is not for everyone. Nor should it be. For religious zealots have triggered more wars and mayhem, throughout the ages (across the globe) than all the secular world put together.
What I suggest you need is a soulmate who will accept you for who you are, not what you are, warts and all. However the first thing you must do, is love yourself fully. and without condition. For its only in loving oneself can we begin to love others... just my opinion for what it is worth Mike!
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Post by David on Oct 26, 2021 2:56:16 GMT
PS., On a more light hearted matter, and if my memory serves me right .
I think it was you who shared with us that your father side of your family
hailed from the UK and in particular Liverpool..
Am I right on the score Mike?
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Post by Hercules on Oct 26, 2021 4:20:46 GMT
I haven't been to church in so long I used to think the people would judge me harshly if they got to know me. I just wanna repent/atone, be forgiven. Speak my mind be part of humankind. I don't know how to join a church group or where to go for bible study, how did you do it? Get permission from your case worker to check out a few churches in your neighbourhood Ideally you will visit three or four churches while making up your mind Decide on the one you enjoy the most and start attending just that one for a couple of months every Sunday If you have a lot to get off your chest and atone then after 4 weeks or so you might like to approach the pastor after the service and ask if you can have a cup of tea with him at some stage that fits his calendar In that cup of tea tell him you have done some bad things but want to atone and also learn more about Christianity to see if it is for you. Usually they have an introduction or alpha course that will meet once a week for 4 weeks and that will be your first chance to meet people Once completed that course and you know the pastor you can either ask if they have any bible study groups or they may make an announcement Ideally you will go along a few times before approaching anyone so they know your face. They want to just size you up to make sure you are sensible before they include you. They will be accepting of your sins. As long as you accept you did wrong and aren’t trying to defend your mistakes. Give this path a try and you can always quit later if it is not your cup of tea |
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Post by David on Oct 26, 2021 4:23:19 GMT
In my penultimate conversation with you , it may have been construed as against religion
that was not my aim. Although it is factual to point out I am against religions where paedophile
activity is rampant. Ad religion that supports war and other atrocities toward human kind.
As far as God is concerned stripped of religiosity, I am in favour. So much so I support a God
.I can relate to of my understanding, a personal God I can relate to. It's called my soul and
therefore individual to me and no one else. Such a statement may appear down right selfish..
but not if you take into account I think every individual can achieve the same goal by believing
more in inner being , as opposed to existential influences, that purport to being the answer to all
woes...if you follow them like sheep and keep donating financially, in order that leaders such as
the Pope, who become more affluent in their material wealth. And it's mot just the leadership of
the catholic church . I'm singling out ... it goes much further than that, covering most established
religions. Yes the publish the amount they spend on chartable causes, but are reluctant to publicise
their personal wealth. Not only in money but including other riches.
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Post by Hercules on Oct 26, 2021 4:31:09 GMT
I In my penultimate conversation with you , it may have been construed as against religion that was not my aim. Although it is factual to point out I am against religions where paedophile activity is rampant. Ad religion that supports war and other atrocities toward human kind. As far as God is concerned stripped of religiosity, I am in favour. So much so I support a God .I can relate to of my understanding, a personal God I can relate to. It's called my soul and therefore individual to me and no one else. Such a statement may appear down right selfish.. but not if you take into account I think every individual can achieve the same goal by believing more in inner being , as opposed to existential influences, that purport to being the answer to all woes...if you follow them like sheep and keep donating financially, in order that leaders such as the Pope, who become more affluent in their material wealth. And it's mot just the leadership of the catholic church . I'm singling out ... it goes much further than that, covering most established religions. Yes the publish the amount they spend on chartable causes, but are reluctant to publicise their personal wealth. Not only in money but including other riches. Thank you for clarifying I agree with the spirit of your concerns |
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Post by mike412412 on Oct 27, 2021 2:52:30 GMT
Yes David my dad was from Liverpool. I learned Liverpool was named after the liverbird.
Aren't you from Newcastle?
In Canada the only places I know of named after an animal -Red Deer, Moose Jaw, White Horse
I think you'd be surprised to learn how many places in Ontario are named after places in England.
Your right it's not a crime to be mentally ill until or unless you break the law like I did. I'd rather be shackled to a ankle monitor and get house arrest than go to jail. Mentally ill who break the law bad enough go to a forensic treatment unit on a hospital. One could be there for years if your a repeat offender. They try to reform you, you can go from being hospitalized to being institutionalized long term. 
There's a TVO(Tv Ontario) documentary called "out of sight out of mind" about where my ex girlfriends been since 2014 for all I know, I do know there's people in those places for 20 years or more because they murdered somebody, You never hear about them though, some people think those places don't exist anymore. They think mentally ill just go to jail, sometimes they do because they have a lousy doctor or lawyer or their just not officially diagnosed. Often mental hospitals by how they look with bars on the windows and a big concrete structure can be mistaken for a jail.
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Post by David on Oct 27, 2021 15:07:14 GMT
Cheers Mike for confirming your Dad came from Liverpool, it's good to know my cognitive ability is still intact even now as a I'm approaching my seventy sixth year. You are equally right in determining that fact I am located in the Newcastle area. He being from the north west and I from northeast England. What's more I lived near Liverpool in the 1960's. Having first tried living in London in my late teens early twenties but couldn't settle their, mainly because if its vastness and the cost of accommodation in the capital.
Which brings me, if my memory remains intact that you lived in London Ontario, I say did for that might no longer be the case.
Getting back to what Hercules said, and I'm sure he meant well by suggesting belonging to a church group might help during this period of loneliness you are experiencing. I apologise for going off on a rant. The thing is I had a traumatic experience, as a result of
being befriended by such a group, whereby one of the clergies sexually assaulted me at the age of eleven. Realistically speaking I don't think for one moment that could happen to you now as a grown up. What I was trying to get across is, not all church folk who attend church socials are necessary wholesome in intent.
You shared that you went off your medication and used alcohol as a replacement which landed you in trouble. Some years ago, now, I drank alcoholically, which got me in to bother and found my saviour, not in a religious setting but in Alcoholics Anonymous. Making friendships which alleviated the loneliness and got me on the right track. Now I am not saying you should do the same. However, I must say the court process took that into account and treat me leniently as a result, that was over thirty plus years ago , and I've not looked back.
By the way Mike, Iam soy to learn what happened to your girlfriend. So yes, there is still serious problems to be addressed in the mental health system... in Canada, in the UK and elsewhere. But even more so in the developing world, where it is not seen so much as an illness more a taboo!
Bye for now< David
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Post by mike412412 on Oct 29, 2021 5:01:52 GMT
I watched a program about a mental hospital in England it was about as secure as Alcatraz was, it was built like a prison with a lookout tower 2 brick walls surrounding the place only way in or out is to drive through 2 checkpoints(guys in a booth that open the gate) brick wall surrounding the place with barbed wire this place was huge, it might sound bad but I bet there's people in there thinking at least I'm not in jail. There's a nice modern looking one in Swindon it reminded me of the hospital I was in with just more security. They still give shock treatments. I take a medication called Abilify as an injection once a month. I was in a place called "Toldo Neurobehavioural institute" in Windsor Ontario, it's just a part of a hospital  they call it hotel dieu grace. |
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Post by David on Oct 29, 2021 17:33:41 GMT
The hospital I think you must be referring to is called Broadmoor. Mike. There have been several documentaries over the years... this maybe the one you are referring too Inside Broadmoor - Channel 5
www.channel5.com/show/inside-broadmoorAbout. This remarkable two-part documentary special marks the 150th anniversary of Broadmoor, home to Britain's most notorious killers. With exclusive and unprecedented access to Broadmoor’s archives, this film unfolds the extraordinary history of the world’s most famous and feared hospital. Why was it originally created, and what has it become? |
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Post by chelle on Nov 3, 2021 0:46:31 GMT
Hello again Mike,
Maybe you can get involved in some type of class or something to where you can meet good people. Do you like to draw? Paint? Exercise? There are classes for just about anything these days not sure if you drive though but maybe A social worker can help you find resources to get you out to meet new people doing things like that. My client is on a bowling league where they meet every so often.
Yes people that do drugs or drink like to pull others down with them. You are clean now and healing. It's going to be a big transition for you and yes lonely at first until you get involved in something to where you can meet the good folks. Don't let the loneliness cause you to go back to the the others. I went through it many years ago. I lost friends and it was a huge transition I think I used work to get me through ad I pulled out of it. I was working 3 jobs to keep from getting bored
Just keep up the good work. I don't know how you feel about church but that would be a good place to meet good people as well.
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