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Post by walterchang on Nov 20, 2018 5:21:36 GMT
The tragedy is going on and I hope the fire can be put out soon.
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Post by walterchang on Nov 20, 2018 5:24:31 GMT
I send my sympathies to the victims.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 13:34:59 GMT
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Post by David on Nov 20, 2018 21:18:17 GMT
The tragedy is going on and I hope the fire can be put out soon. I also hope and pray that be the case Walter
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 0:25:30 GMT
California has always had wild fires but these are different. They are based on a new climate that threatens to uproot whole populations. Your people wear masks in the major cities...it's only getting worse. Apparently, we're too stupid to survive and nature is going to dust us. Say goodbye.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 12:41:55 GMT
California has always had wild fires but these are different. They are based on a new climate that threatens to uproot whole populations. Your people wear masks in the major cities...it's only getting worse. Apparently, we're too stupid to survive and nature is going to dust us. Say goodbye. duckduckgo.com/?q=agenda+21+fires&t=opera&ia=videos
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 12:44:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:38:58 GMT
A U.S. govt. report on climate change was just released. It has dire warnings for our near future and proves we are already experiencing the negative effects of global warming. Trump refutes his own report...of course. I don't expect him (or you) to grasp the reality.
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Post by walterchang on Nov 26, 2018 3:14:20 GMT
It seems that the globe turns more and more warm. However, the world leader have not reached agreement on this point.
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Post by walterchang on Nov 26, 2018 3:18:04 GMT
However, the world leaders have not reached agreement on this point.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 11:52:01 GMT
It seems that the globe turns more and more warm. However, the world leader have not reached agreement on this point. The people I know who are thoughtful, have accepted the reality of disastrous climate change due to man. They (and I) have seen reputable scientists ignored because money buys control and the general population is greedy and stupid enough to sell their vote to the lobbyists of the coal and oil industries. The leaders you speak of either can't or won't do anything about it. In democracies, the voters will throw you out of office if you force serious action (spending) regarding climate change. There currently, are riots in France as an example. In authoritarian states such as yours, the same situation exists by party pressure on the leader or in Russia as influence from fellow oligarchs.
The point is: hard headed people are preparing for the inevitable changes by moving away from low coastal areas. The real estate values in these places are dropping like a rock and this is causing mayhem in economic projections which guide the stock market. Eventually, when the truth becomes unavoidable...I expect world chaos and the survivors will be people who have seen the danger coming and have prepared for it.
The wild fires are out due to exhaustive efforts by thousands of firefighters and recent heavy rains which have come long overdue. People will begin removing forested areas from populated centers and doing what they can to counter the fire threat but nothing's going to help much. I think we're all in for some nasty weather Walter.
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Post by walterchang on Nov 28, 2018 4:58:09 GMT
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Do you know of the Malthusian theory of population. I think that the climate change is like the Malthusian theory of population. You Americans and westerners dont have population control at all and you just let the developping countries have population controls. You Americans and westerners try to affect the developping contries to cut CO2 emision and you drive your cars to travel around as your life styles.
That is my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 11:01:46 GMT
Keith Do you know of the Malthusian theory of population. I think that the climate change is like the Malthusian theory of population. You Americans and westerners dont have population control at all and you just let the developping countries have population controls. You Americans and westerners try to affect the developping contries to cut CO2 emision and you drive your cars to travel around as your life styles. That is my opinion. Yes Walter, I'm aware of the theory. I don't know why it's called a theory...the facts are obvious. Go a bit deeper...we no longer follow the rules of natural selection and the species is degrading. There's a movie called "Idiocracy" which was popular here years ago and proved to be prophetic...look who we elected. I know we're at least as guilty as anyone else regarding fossil fuel emissions. Did you think I was defending our culture? We all have the means to stop the pollution...we don't because we're greedy, petty, and stupid.
Overpopulation isn't our problem Walter: 2018 World Population by Country and current Growth Rate
China 1,417,212,354 0.39% India 1,359,888,597 1.11% United States 327,672,073 0.71% Indonesia 267,901,839 1.06%
I'd say Indonesia is a developing country...our rate of growth is far less. Also, the United States with 3.8 million square miles compared to China's 3.7 million square miles can easily afford our 75% less population.
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Post by walterchang on Nov 29, 2018 1:57:03 GMT
Keith
I dont know whether the data in your post is accurate or not, but I feel you have exaggerated the problem of population and/or climate changes. In fact you can call for planting more trees to absorb the CO2 in atmosphere which has been over emitted since industrial revolution.
As you said in your post we are greedy, petty and stupid, Chinese policy makers also made some stupid decisions. Do you know Chinese 'one child policy', However, Chinese scholars are at odds on how to revalue it now.
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Post by walterchang on Nov 29, 2018 3:49:23 GMT
Keith
You know that Americans' Apollo project. Was it a hoax?
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